Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Na Górze
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The result was Move and redirect , which I will do manually. Please tweak if needed Star Mississippi 00:33, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
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The name means literally "at the top". From the map it appears to be a farm in the village of Gliśno Wielkie. Notably the GMaps address given for this location is in that village. The only source given in the article is the TERYT database, but I could not locate an entry for this.
Searching this Polish postal directory I also could not find an entry for this place in Lipnica, Bytów. This 2015 law on Polish place names (1500+ pages long) describes it as "Part of Gliśno Wielkie" (część wsi Gliśno Wielkie), not as a settlement (osada), so the article is inaccurate.
Exactly none of these sources describes this place as ever having been a populated settlement, as such it fails WP:GEOLAND. Merging to Gliśno Wielkie is meaningless as no information is included in the article to merge. Redirecting the Polish phrase for "at the top" to a random village in rural Poland makes no sense. That leaves deletion. FOARP (talk) 20:25, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Poland. FOARP (talk) 20:25, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- "Redirecting the Polish phrase for "at the top" to a random village in rural Poland makes no sense"? That's the name of the place and it's part of the village. In English such a phrase could be a "random" song or album. There are other places so disambiguation would be more useful. Peter James (talk) 12:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Peter, there are 15 different locations with the same name listed on PL Wiki, a film, and a rock-band - why would anyone be looking for this? Not even address of the location is listed as being Na Górze - though the postal directory lists a (similarly non-notable) address in Rybnik. This title falls into at least two classes of un-needed redirect:
- 1) The title is a Polish-language adjective ("topmost"/"top") with no actual affinity to the subject. See WP:AFFINITY.
- 2) The title is WP:UNHELPFUL since it raises unrealistic expectations - we do not redirect every named location and building in a village to the village. FOARP (talk) 13:22, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Settlements in a parish are typically redirected to the parish if there is not enough content for a separate article. WP:AFFINITY would only be a reason not to redirect it to an article with no connection to the language or add an article with no connection to that language to a disambiguation page. Whether a place is in a postal directory are not always relevant - in the UK some villages and large suburbs can be missing entirely and a small village can be included three times. Peter James (talk) 13:56, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- This isn’t a settlement, though - that would be listed as an osada. This is simply a place-name, one that is essentially an adjective. FOARP (talk) 06:14, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Settlements in a parish are typically redirected to the parish if there is not enough content for a separate article. WP:AFFINITY would only be a reason not to redirect it to an article with no connection to the language or add an article with no connection to that language to a disambiguation page. Whether a place is in a postal directory are not always relevant - in the UK some villages and large suburbs can be missing entirely and a small village can be included three times. Peter James (talk) 13:56, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- "Redirecting the Polish phrase for "at the top" to a random village in rural Poland makes no sense"? That's the name of the place and it's part of the village. In English such a phrase could be a "random" song or album. There are other places so disambiguation would be more useful. Peter James (talk) 12:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
- Move then Redirect. Per pl wiki and TERYT, this is just part of a village. I don't see how this has a stand-alone notability. Will start pl wiki AFD soon. PS. First, move this to Na Górze (Gliśno Wielkie), per pl wiki. Note that per pl wiki and TERYT, there is a dozen or so different villages have identically named "parts". The current name should be a disambig like pl:Na Górze. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:09, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Move then redirect per Piotrus.
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.